Questions about the F-16
Topic: Two more advantages (F16 vs MIG29) and questions

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Posted by Anonymous on 04-27-1999 12:23 AM
*** Posted by Julian "Tiger" Raureanu ***
Hi RUN and thanks for answering my questions.
About the F16 vs MIG29 answer. I think there is one more advantage for each of these two.
The MIG29 has a HMS (Helmet Mounted Sight) which is a big advantage in a dogfight.
The F16 has fly-by-wire system which is more easy to use than a conventional mechanical sytem which requires a lot of force from the pilot to pull the stick.(opinion)

I would like to ask you a few questions.
1. Are you agreed with my opinion?
2. Can you override FLCS? I mean, can you take more than 9g and 25' AoA?
3. Don't you think that a HMS, and a thrust vectoring system on the F16 will beat the MIG29 more easily?
4. Which is T/W ratio of the F16, if not classified?
That's all
Thank you very much
P.S. F16 is my dream as you see and the only aircraft I love truly.

Posted by Anonymous on 04-27-1999 1:18 AM
*** Posted by RUN ***
You are right about the advantages except for the stick forces, but ofcourse it is nice with the support for the arm in the F16.

Answers to questions:

2. No, but you can get it a little above 9 Gs

3. Probably

4. Depends on the model, load & fuel, but more than 1 to 1 if clean.

RUN

[Hi RUN and thanks for answering my questions.
About the F16 vs MIG29 answer. I think there is one more advantage for each of these two.
The MIG29 has a HMS (Helmet Mounted Sight) which is a big advantage in a dogfight.
The F16 has fly-by-wire system which is more easy to use than a conventional mechanical sytem which requires a lot of force from the pilot to pull the stick.(opinion)

I would like to ask you a few questions.
1. Are you agreed with my opinion?
2. Can you override FLCS? I mean, can you take more than 9g and 25' AoA?
3. Don't you think that a HMS, and a thrust vectoring system on the F16 will beat the MIG29 more easily?
4. Which is T/W ratio of the F16, if not classified?
That's all
Thank you very much
P.S. F16 is my dream as you see and the only aircraft I love truly.]

Posted by Anonymous on 05-09-1999 6:52 PM
*** Posted by Kim Nielsen of DK ***
[You are right about the advantages except for the stick forces, but ofcourse it is nice with the support for the arm in the F16.]


Could'nt You be in the wisf of some kind of response from the stick? This regarding to the dilemma between power-seering vs. traditional direct steering from the automobile-branch.

Kim

Posted by Anonymous on 05-10-1999 4:00 PM
*** Posted by RUN ***
[Could'nt You be in the wisf of some kind of response from the stick? This regarding to the dilemma between power-seering vs. traditional direct steering from the automobile-branch.

Kim]

Not really. You can feel the responses in your body. In the early f16 days the stick didn't move at all and the old fighter pilots had a tough time adapting to this, so it was decided to let the stick move a little just to satisfy the pilots.
In jets which are not fly-by-wire conrolled, but just controlled via wires and actuators, springs are used to give the pilot an artificial feel of stick forces.
It's a little easier to control the aircraft when you have to overcome some force to move the stick & some pilots even trim the a/c a little nose heavy when they are flying formation so they have to constantly add a little back pressure even when flying straight & level.

In small low speed aircraft I think though it's important that you get some feedback through the stick. I used to fly gliders & here you get a lot of feeling through the stick. It's easy to tell wether you are stressing the glider to much or if you are about to stall.

RUN